Gray vs Aokiji

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Gray vs Aokiji
Tweet Topic Started: Aug 2 2017, 09:19 PM (546 Views)
+ Son-Goku	Aug 2 2017, 09:19 PM Post #1
孫悟空 Posts: 13,357 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Gray from FT at strongest vs Aokiji from One Piece at strongest Round 1: Normal Round 2: Equal Speed Round 3: Equal Power Round 4: Equal Speed and Power
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Notaka	Aug 3 2017, 07:35 PM Post #16
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	He still wins. Like I said, Gray's biggest problem is that he can't even touch Aokiji. What's the point of having equal speed and power if you can't touch your opponent ?
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PocketGod	Aug 3 2017, 08:08 PM Post #17
Posts: 1,668 Group: Member Member #12,574 Joined: August 22, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Yowamushi Pedal What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk	Gray's only chance is in round 4 imo, but with Aokiji's greater combat experience, higher stamina, intangibility and precognition I'd say the Admiral takes this more often than not.
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+ Son-Goku	Aug 3 2017, 08:10 PM Post #18
孫悟空 Posts: 13,357 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Notaka Aug 3 2017, 07:35 PM He still wins. Like I said, Gray's biggest problem is that he can't even touch Aokiji. What's the point of having equal speed and power if you can't touch your opponent ? Why can't he touch him?
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+ Steve	Aug 3 2017, 08:20 PM Post #19
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Notaka Aug 3 2017, 06:13 PM I don't think so. Magma and Fire aren't the same thing, but Aokiji and Gray both use Ice. Gray maybe has better mastery of Ice, but Aokiji is ice incarnated whereas Gray has a certain limit, and Aokiji has better physical attributes and is a logia. His intangibility is a major problem for Gray. Akainu stated that magma is hotter than fire though so it seems more of a temperature thing. Stands to reason that it should go the same way for the opposite element within One Piece anyway. I doubt Aokiji could survive absolute zero anyway. Why wouldn't Gray be able to eat him? I doubt he'd really do that but Aokiji isn't intangible his ice form is solid he just has full control over it. If you break him to pieces you can still pick the pieces up. Unlike Smoker or Caesar who are gas or anyone who's a liquid.
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Notaka	Aug 4 2017, 09:23 AM Post #20
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Quote: Why can't he touch him? He can't touch him because Aokiji is a logia. It's been confirmed you can't hit a Logia unless you: -Can use armament Haki. -Or use the proprieties' weakness(That's how luffy was able to touch and defeated some Logia such as croc who has sand powers by using any liquid such as his blood, or was able to tag Enel who is electrical due to luffy's natural advantage of being rubber.) Gray has neither things going for him. Quote: Akainu stated that magma is hotter than fire though so it seems more of a temperature thing. Like I said, Magma and Fire aren't the same thing. Magma is a mixture of molten rock, whereas fire isn't. And Akainu could have very well used Haki. Quote: Stands to reason that it should go the same way for the opposite element within One Piece anyway. I doubt Aokiji could survive absolute zero anyway. Assuming Gray can even reach absolute zero. Quote: Why wouldn't Gray be able to eat him? I doubt he'd really do that but Aokiji isn't intangible his ice form is solid he just has full control over it. If you break him to pieces you can still pick the pieces up. Unlike Smoker or Caesar who are gas or anyone who's a liquid. Gray can't eat him because Aokiji is intangible due to his logia proprieties and that Gray is physically inferior. and yes, Aokiji has demonstrated feats of being intangible: He managed to dodge a Haki infused hit from Whitebeard by opening a hole.
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+ Steve	Aug 4 2017, 09:20 PM Post #21
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Quote: Gray has neither things going for him. In this section there are two ways to look at this though. Energy is equailized here so one way is that Haki and Magic function the same way, so Magic should hurt Aokiji. And then if we say Logia still works then of course it shouldn't unless there's something in Fairy Tail truly comparable, a special kind of non magic energy or some crap. Quote: Like I said, Magma and Fire aren't the same thing. Magma is a mixture of molten rock, whereas fire isn't. And Akainu could have very well used Haki. That's irrelevant though, Akainu states that there's a heat difference. Magma in real life has no hope of putting out fire considering fire is a reaction and magma is a liquid. It's almost like gas vs liquid. Magma can't burn fire but by virtue of being hotter than fire it could burn Ace. There isn't really any reason why that shouldn't work in the opposite direction. Quote: Assuming Gray can even reach absolute zero. I mean generally there's probably a limit Aokiji can go to and his ice seems to be all the same so far as we know. Quote: Gray can't eat him because Aokiji is intangible due to his logia proprieties and that Gray is physically inferior. and yes, Aokiji has demonstrated feats of being intangible: He managed to dodge a Haki infused hit from Whitebeard by opening a hole. Not the same as intangibility. Intangibility is like Kitty from X-Men where you can put your hands through her, Aokiji makes that hole in his body to avoid the hit. Otherwise he's still solid and he gets hit multiple times to show this. You can still grab Aokiji just for most people that's a stupid idea because you're now frozen. So far only Aokiji and Blackbeard are solid Logia's, everyone else is something you can't really grab like sand or mud.
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Notaka	Aug 4 2017, 09:26 PM Post #22
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	OK let's assume Aokiji is solid. He's still superior to Gray physically. He won't even use his ice powers.
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+ Steve	Aug 5 2017, 05:41 PM Post #23
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Yeah I think Gray can only really win with equal speed and power(assuming that applies to physicals too) He may be more skilled than Aokiji when it comes to hand to hand, can't really tell since Aokiji has barely done anything and Logia's always get it easy.
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


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